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RE: PROPHET OBADARE AND LATE BIMBO ODUKOYA VISION – MATTERS ARISING.

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I logged in into my facebook on the 3rd of December, 2009. After a long time in the traffic coming from the Fate Foundation Award night. I was surprised to see people commenting on the vision the world evangelist saw and shared publicly I believe. I did not get the full details of the vision I have to go to Google to get a link and have the full gist. I got this which I copied here without editing:

“when I died I found myself at Heaven’s Gate, there I was told by some angels that Jesus was unhappy with me, they showed me the mansion that Jesus had built for me but they added that Jesus did not wish to see me, I was told that He was displeased with the role I played in the break-up of the Christ Apostolic Church(CAC) into various factions, while there I also saw the late Babalola who founded the CAC who said he was not pleased with me either, he it was who told me to get back to earth and ensure that I disband my church(WOSEM) and send messages to all leaders of the splinter congregations to re-align themselves with the original congregation founded by Babalola,”

“to demonstrate the gravity of the instructions given to me and to emphasize what would happen to me if I disobeyed I was led to Hell’s Gate where I saw millions of souls weeping, gnashing their teeth and writhing in agony, but I was startled to see a female pastor who made her mark on earth but died a premature death in a plane crash several years ago, yes it was pastor bimbo odukoya I saw!, I blurted out to her ‘pastor what are you doing in this place?’, she replied ‘this is where I am o, they say it is because of my dressing, my mini skirts, my hairdos and my lifestyle, that is what has landed me here o, please if you can go back and tell my people, please tell them to save themselves o!’, I have therefore sent a message to pastor bimbo’s husband, taiwo who founded Fountain of Life Church,”

Permit me to give my own view of the whole issue as it affects the entire Christian fold and the nation at large. We will start by doing a thorough analysis of the vision and then come out with conclusion whether the above is worth having a sleepless night over or it worth having a night vigil over.  I remember that when I was a small boy, we used to watch baba on the TV with the intro song that goes thus “di dun di dun loro re…” which mean your words are sweet… Baba was seriously held in high esteem then and miracles happened daily at the monthly night vigil organized by the same tagged “Olorun koseun ti”.

I was surprised those days to hear of the issues between baba and the CAC. They eventually took themselves to court and the eventual break up was the resolution then. Apparently baba was a great apostle to our generation. Moreover, I have been privileged to meet baba on two occasions at Ilesa and Ibadan respectively. This man is truly a man of God! Nevertheless does that mean that everything he says, must be taken hook, line and sinker?? We have to check from the scripture to verify the authenticity of that vision. Every vision and prophesy given must not contradict the scripture for a second.

On the other hand too, I was privileged to follow the ministry of Pastor Bimbo Odukoya while she was alive. I followed through all the avenues available to me at that time, tapes, CDs, Conferences, television, magazines which in turn took me to her church and eventually I was able to meet with her, we talked for close to 2hrs. All am saying is that I know the stuff she was made of before she died. I have to let you see that these two people involved are well known to me and I will not be bias but my OPINION shall be based on my scriptural knowledge, but I stand to be corrected in some of my views as nobody has entire biblical knowledge.

“When i died i found myself at Heaven’s Gate…: this is the first thing that I will first address. Did baba died truly? Or he was caught up in a vision or trance? Robert Liadon saw heaven in a vision, Apostle Paul saw heaven too and some great people in the bible. You don’t need to die before you see heaven. Where do I get that from?  “And just as it is destined that each person dies only once and after that comes judgment, from” Heb. 9: 27 NLT. The rich man in the Bible, begged to come back and tell people what he has seen but he was rejected, do you think you have to die and rise up again before you can be taking seriously?

When i died i found myself at Heaven’s Gate, there i was told by some angels that Jesus was unhappy with me, they showed me the mansion that Jesus had built for me but they…: I think the time has come for us Christians to stop thinking that all that we live for on earth is to get a mansion in heaven as a reward for our tolling on earth! Let us get back to the bible and read well and understand what the scripture is saying on that. Beside baba was not allowed to enter heaven, he was at the heaven’s gate and at the same time was showed the mansion! My question is, was the mansion adjacent the gate or opposite the gate maybe by the gate?

I was told that He was displeased with the role i played in the break-up of the Christ Apostolic Church(CAC) into various factions, while there i also saw the late Babalola who founded the CAC who said he was not pleased with me either, he it was who told me to get back to earth and ensure that i disband my church(WOSEM) and send messages to all leaders of the splinter congregations to re-align themselves with the original congregation founded by Babalola”… I do not have objection to this because I don’t really know the role baba played during the break up. When I was young I thought he was being persecuted. So this one is between him and God and the CAC leadership.

“to demonstrate the gravity of the instructions given to me and to emphasize what would happen to me if i disobeyed i was led to Hell’s Gate where i saw millions of souls weeping, gnashing their teeth and writhing in agony, but i was startled to see a female pastor who made her mark on earth but died a premature death in a plane crash several years ago, yes it was pastor bimbo odukoya i saw!, i blurted out to her ‘pastor what are you doing in this place?’, she replied ‘this is where i am o, they say it is because of my dressing, my mini skirts, my hairdos and my lifestyle, that is what has landed me here o, please if you can go back and tell my people, please tell them to save themselves o!’, i have therefore sent a message to pastor bimbo’s husband, taiwo who founded Fountain of Life Church” This is the main issue here,  the pictures painted here is that pastor Bimbo went to hell because of “mini skirt, hair do and lifestyle”

1.   Where in the scriptures did we see Christians going to hell because of hair do or dressing? What is the bible says about that?

2.   Has anyone ever seen pastor Bimbo Odukoya on mini skirt before? I have not seen her but I will like to know if anyone has seen her with mini skirt before?

3.   What lifestyle got her hell’s ticket? This was someone who people gave their lives to Christ through her lifestyle of decency and spirituality.

4.   Hmm…. How will a statement like:

Please if you can go back and tell my people, please tell them to save themselves o! That statement is not scriptural because nobody can save himself. God is the only one that could save his people, and I don’t think such heresy will come from God. Above all prophesies, visions and dreams are supposed to edify and take people closer to God according to 1Cor14:19-25

20 Dear brothers and sisters don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature and wise in understanding matters of this kind. 21 It is written in the Scriptures,*“I will speak to my own people Through unknown languages and through the lips of foreigners. But even then, they will not listen to me,”*says the Lord. 22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. 23 Even so, if unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your meeting and hear everyone talking in an unknown language, they will think you are crazy. 24 But if all of you are prophesying, and unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your meeting, they will be convicted of sin, and they will be condemned by what you say. 25 As they listen, their secret thoughts will be laid bare, and they will fall down on their knees and worship God, declaring, “God is really here among you.”

In the actual sense, the last verse spelled it out well the unbelievers will say God is really here. However this dream, message, vision or prophesy I don’t even know what to call it, has even draw people back from God’s kingdom and unbelievers are even saying if a woman who served God with passion and dedication like that can go to hell then who can be saved? That is the question on people lips. God will not contradict Himself, if visions are to draw people closer to “God like I saw Heaven” by Robert Liadon did. They did not scare people out of God kingdom why will this one now push people to the other side of the kingdom?

This is my opinion, like I said earlier on that, I have been able to meet the two of them  and I know the stuff they are made of, having analyzed this message very well in the light of the scriptures I DON’T, THINK THIS IS COMING FROM BABA OBADARE and if it is true then…………

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  1. Of course anybody can go to hell… if they do not meet God’s requirement for salvation. John 3:16 lists the main requirement for eternal life ‘that whosoever belives in Him- Jesus’. Did Pastor Bimbo believe in Jesus? If the answer is yes, then I care less what whoever said they saw.
    I respect Baba Obadare a lot, I grew up in Akure where he lives, but nonetheless if what He said does not line up with what is clearly written in scriptures, I beg to differ from it.

  2. It is important to know whose report to believe. Im my opinion, it is the biblical report that is final. Let us continue with the realisation that we are pilgrims on earth and that we have been called to fulfil purpose here.Know your purpose and fulfil it by His grace. Do not doubt your salvation, be assured and let no one judge you..what you eat,drink,wear(I speak with understanding as a man).

    If God gave the visioner a vision and a message, let him deliver it. If the message or vision is meant for the receiver, he/she will receive it. The holy spirit will also convince same.

    If the holy spirit tells you to stop wearing mini skirt and stuff or you know it is wrong then stop. If he tells you it is okay, who should judge or condemn you? For me , the bottomline is have the holy spirit and listen to what he tells you.By their works we shall know them…..do you know Pastor Bimbo’s work? I know her evangelical works and those abide even now.God knows where she is and God is the best judge of our works.May the lord direct us and lead us aright.

    So lets leave the dead and where they are and concentrate on preparing the living for where they should go…heaven.

  3. Only God knows those that are HIS.

  4. bukola idowu, thank you. “This is my opinion, like I said earlier on that, I have been able to meet the two of them and I know the stuff they are made of, having analyzed this message very well in the light of the scriptures I DON’T, THINK THIS IS COMING FROM BABA OBADARE and if it is true then……”

    Just like you, I have met the two ministers of God, but i have been in CAC OLOTO, EBUTEMETA, LAGOS for over 6yrs. I put it to you that we should check the source of that story… it’s definitely not coming from GOD and BABA OBADARE.

    I ve taken time to read the story over- its contradictory. Note that Obadare didnot break up from CAC. Its still CAC WOSEM, Just like the anointing service of kalejaiye is to REDEEM.

    WOSEM- is all about EAGERNESS OF GOD TO WIN SOULS, “and not to lose souls”.

    The origin of this whole story is not from BABA. The devil is at it again strategically fighting the church in Nigeria and no one is seeing it that way.

    God will expose and disgrace all those satanic agents working to plant seeds of discord in the church and also give good health to Baba to evangelise more at the latter period of his stay on earth.

  5. Thanks so much for your comment, like you said the devil is at work again to lunch his attack on the church and ministers in Nigeria. we must rise up and fight back. The source of that story am sure is from the pit of hell. And am sure God will expose them soon.

  6. Let us never be unnecessarily biased especially over sensitive issues like this concerning God and beliefs. As for me, anybody who falls short the standard of God whether openly or secretly on this earth will enter the hell fire. Be it worker, student, Imam, Pastor, President, just anyone. As someone said, we better forget those gone and concentrate on saving ourselves and the living. God help us.

  7. Thank you so much for this detailed response in light of the scriptures. God bless you real good.
    I was almost beginning to wonder… .
    At the end of the day, God’s word is our guide. He will not lie/contradict Himself.

  8. It will be very painfull if Pastor Bimbo is in hell fire.However whether the story is true or not let everybody check his way and do what the scripture says. May GOD’s mercy prevail over judgment in JESUS’ name

  9. The summary of the whole gist is for whoever identifies with Jesus Christ should examine his or her ways if he or she is still in the Lord cos it is written that whoever THINKS that he stands should take heed lest he falls.Brethrens it is injury time and the time is rather short to be debating who and who is in hell and not in hell. Every mans work shall be tested with fire and when your work and mine are tested what shall the result be? There is no repentance in the grave NOW is the time to RESTITUTE and return to the LORD.SELF JUSTIFICATION IS NOT IT so we should ALL REPENT AND FORSAKE OUR EVIL WAYS

  10. Life is a market place which every one has come and must return bark one someday.So,let not see this world as if there is no tomorrow and we are just on our own.Let’s leave our life according to the word of God and forget about what people says.People’s opinion does not matter as far as one in walking in line with the word of God.Therefore,on the vision of Baba,let’s not take it for granted.He was the only person that was there with his God and if any body has anything to ague about,let the person ask God to kill him so that he can go to heaven or hell fire.Then ,if there is any grace to come back and tell the story of who and who are in heaven or hell.
    Lastly,any one the said because of what Baba said made him or her drew back from serving God,is not a serious christian.Paul said and i quote”What shall separate me from the love of God?”Absolutely,nothing.Christianity is apersonal race .When i read the paper at Oshodi bus stop,i was touched and made up my mind to take God serious.We shall not abuse the grace of God upon our lives.

  11. let baba obadare come openly and tell the whole world his vision, i think that alone will solve the side talk of some people. moreover God is not a respecter of anybody. he said not every one that called me lord that will go to heaven. or you think all the so call men or women of God will enter heaven? Bimbo can enter hell if her ways is not pleasing God. what do you take God for. Nucodamuse said i kept the law i pay my tihte, i give arlm etc. but Jesus said you must be born again what elseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…………….. JESUS IS THE LORD

  12. Hi Pastor Bukki,
    I do like to affirm here that this is a very sensitive matter and as such we (humans) can be emotional about it. Having read your analysis I submit that it is God who has the final say over us all.

    Pastor, do u remember the scripture Luke 16:19-31 “19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

    20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

    21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

    22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

    23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

    25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

    26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

    27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:

    28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

    29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

    30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

    31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead”

    Which was by Jesus our saviour himself, and if we put this story in parallel with what you pasted here I see little or no difference.

    Based on your analysis sir, I would say first that baba is experienced in the things of God and cant misplace trance for death! Yet we may need to hear from the Doctor who confirmed him dead! So its not everybody that will die instantly and end it all some may have second chance like Lazarus whom Jesus loved in the bible and might seen heaven before they come back! Yeah you remembered John writter of Revelation He was as good as dead until he came back to write those words so it could be a trance or in death what does it matter , I doubt if baba would fake that to get audience, he already has the platform!

    2ndly, You made reference to the issue of Mansion, I know Jesus is gone to heaven to prepare a place for the Christian so it is written in the bible, it is a reward system, do my will on earth join me in Heaven! so what’s wrong in in doing right because of the reward! And Pastor if there are no reward systems you will tell me you will still serve God but remembered what Paul said If i dont have any hope of heaven he is of all men most miserable! And Pastor I know it is posible spiritually for you to be at the gate and see what is inside the gate (we are talking about spirit at that point not flesh)!

    At least that was fair the story didnt just start by saying Pastor Bimbo bla bla bla…. but d story told us fisrt abt the person who it claimed saw the vission. i therefore think it will be erroneous for the likes of baba to first castigate himself before making his point and who was he scared of to start that way.

    As per his role in C.A.C I would prefer to remain silent about that because i was in that church then (C.A.C. Revival Center which was pastored by another major pastor who was spear heading the talk then Pastor E.H.L. Olusheye in Akure). So whateever might have been his role in that at least according to visison he must be here to fix it!

    Well the sin of disobedience can take anybody to hell remenber Moses he struck the Rock hard and called the israelites stiff necked people and see what the devil came to do – claimed his body ! If NOT FOR GOD THAT ALLOWED IT TO BE WRITTEN THAT THE ANGEL OF GOD CLAIMED BACK HIS BODY ANY BIBLE SCHOLAR WILL CONCLUDE THAT MOSES WENT TO HELL! SO IF GOD HAD EARLIER WARNED PASTOR MRS BIMBO ODUKOYA ABOUT THE MATTER AS REFERED THEN GOD WILL DECIDED WAT TO DO WITH HER ! And if that is obtainable then it is a 50-50 chance issue so u cant just conclude that way because we ve seen this happened in the bible!

    Judahs Ischariot went to hell ultimately because he did not Give his life to Christ but He was with Christ! And dressed like him so? Pastor Bukky I think this also should be reconsidered but am only doing my analysis in light of the scripture!

    As per the issue of save yourself I also read this statement in the bible Acts 2:40 “And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation”

    So its okay to say save yourself afterall i see this in the bible and it does not mean that you are the one who will go die on the cross for your own sins again, but that you should repent! so let the bible define its terms pastor!

    So therefore let him that thinketh he stand take heed least he falls. Pastor Bimbo is through with her service onto the Lord and awaits God’s final instruction so why can we that remains work out our salvation with fear and trembling!

    I do not think God will want commotion in His kingdom and therefore this can only be taken as a C- caution in the christiandom because , is that devil wants to sweeps away all the followers of christ through late pastor bimbo or wants to discredit pastor Obadare’s followers ? because none of these two followers are free, they both have their share of the cake.

    So lets take heed and be careful we are in the perilious times.

    AS for me I ll pray that God will help us (that are still alive) to live according to his words!

  13. well, The story may be true or not, i know one day the truth shall be known. is either Baba reacts or pastor Odukaoya, i mean her husband reacts to the issue. one thing though, if her husband has not reacted to the issue all this while, it might be true. because i expect him to have found out the source of the information if he has not received any message from baba has claimed in the passage and reacted to the rumor. but whatever hell is real and heaven is real. This will make me comment on the admin claim that he knows the 2 personally, you can only know their activities, you can not know what they do in secret. There will be supprises in heaven so stop defending anybody just make your way right with God.
    And concerning what we wear as christians we need to be careful, Bible says let your moderacy be known to all men. This days you see ladies who open half of their breast even as leader in house of God claim born again. Well i’m not supprised becos it’s been written that many would be deceived at the end of time. May God help us

  14. When I read the story of the revelation of prophet Obadare, I was very sad within me. This is because I know have watched and listened to pastor Bimbo over and over again in the television. She was among the ministers on T.V, I chose to watch and listen to. When I read those words ‘this is where I am o, they say it is because of my dressing, my mini skirts, my hairdos and my lifestyle, that is what has landed me here o, please if you can go back and tell my people, please tell them to save themselves o!’ It was like I could feel her talking again.
    I cast my mind to the words of the Bible that says ‘if the righteous scarcely be saved where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 1 Peter 4:18.
    Be it known to all, that friendship with the world(even in appearance) is enmity with God. James 4:4
    Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

  15. I just found your site today and was impressed by the clarity of your points. You see, this is most likely an old trick. It falls in the same class as those stories of ‘New Born Baby With Writing in His Palm Saying Jesus is Coming Back’, and all other lies of those who amuse themselves by measuring Christian’s gullibility. These days, it is very easy to pitch christians against each other by just cooking up a stupid story of a supposed misdeed by a servant of God, or misrepresentation of a so-called vision. I AM SURE THIS IS A LIE. Those who peddle this take advantage of today’s Christians (unfortunate) natural gullibility. Christians should try to find out the truth behind such claims before getting involved in needless discourse. Did Obadare really die, or was he even sick? I am sure the old man is not even aware of all these arguments. Well, I did not give it a thought until I began to see all these mudslinging as commentators were up in arms to defend their opinions of a nonexistence issue. But you are doing a good job. Be blessed

  16. As Shola Olatunji said, let Baba Obadare openly confess this to the world. I always say this “God is the only one who knows those who are truely HIS servants” Let me also tell you “SCANDAL IS WHAT ONE HALF OF THE WORLD TAKES PLEASURE INVENTING AND THE OTHER HALF IN BELIEVING!

  17. whether or nt its true is not the issue but that as christians we shouuld know that christianity is no childs play we’ve seriously got work to do i.e spreadin the gospel and living our lives according to God’s will and commandments..
    about the way we dress and hairdos would we rather have our lace wigs and brazilllian human hair, skinny jeans, mini skirts boob tubes on and get to heavens gate and be sent 2 hell or get there and hear them say it didn’t matter after all.. my dear nigerians , why take d RISK!!! after all vanity upon vanity all is VANITY..
    recent;y, before i even heard dis story a friend of mine stopped havin extensions and attachments on her hair cos she was warned in her dream not to and even when she declined and had it on again she started choking and becomin breathless even prayers didn’t work untill she had it taken out
    summarily, whether its true or not , i intend to try and stop having extensions of wateva kind on my hair and even wearin hijabs if possible….lol…. and above all keepin a pure heart and worshipping my God in truth and in spirit…it ain’t gonna be easy but God help us all..

  18. i want to say thanks to you all for this comments.but in my opinion,from what ive read,i beg to disagree with all of this sayings.people,we dont have to wait to see a beast with horns before we realise that this is the end time and that there are anti-christs everywhere.this is to demoralize people and draw them away from God.people of God,we have Gods’ spirit,let him speak to us.make me believe the uncircumcised philistine who started all this (cos i dont think baba did )by bringing baba on air and make him share this publicly.they did worse things to Jesus and now,the dead.is God WICKED that he will not reveal this to either of his servants?why would he wait this long to condemn baba(his friend).they communicate,God works through him,and for pastor bimbo,if she didnt believe in christ,people wont get saved and their lives wont change.even if she would not listen to God,wouldnt God have sent other servants of His to her?remember,she didnt die in the crash,she made it to the hospital,so if she needed amendment,she had a second chance,so what are we talking about?wait a minute guys,WHO DO WE TAKE GOD FOR?A MONSTER that cant wait for us to sin before He devours us?so ,WHY DID JESUS DIE,WHY DID HE WASTE HIS PRECIOUS LIFE REDEEM US?sorry guys,this isnt God or baba talking.i pity whoever started this.SHALOM

  19. I just read it a website that the news is not true. They interviewed Baba Obadare’s son who said Baba didnt die at any time. U can read more from the site. http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/index.php?topic=58576.msg252215

  20. Listen and well.
    The Bible can be dismantled logically the way anyone would dismantle Pastor Obadare’s message.Go listen to the MUSLIMS do it.
    The issue is,Pastor Bimbo as well as many of us are culpable.
    We are responsible for a lot of kingdom misdemeanour and God is giving us the opportunity to repent again.
    All the writers here who are sure they have examined themselves and are heaven worthy should have another opinion.
    Believe me ,as you are reading me you are already in one mess that you need to clean up.
    Stop criticising Baba Obadare.Clean your lives.
    Why would a xtian live in 10 mansions while some people still lack food?
    Why do you steal money lie and fornicate?
    Let repent please.I have already book a date with God.
    Lord we are sorry(singing)

  21. The matter before us is not supposed to be so surprising,it is nothing but the logical culmination of the decadence that has crept into church over the years being catalyzed by so called men and women of God who have forsaken the path of holiness, truth and selflessness. We present day xtians are no different from Achan, Ananias & Saphira, Esau, Judas, who have were consumed with material desires at the expense of the welfare of their souls. We are have become lovers of self as prophesied by Christ would happen just before his coming. Pastors today are nothing but comedians and motivational speakers whose personal lives are completely devoid of the transformation wrought by the power of the Holy Ghost, they are thieves and have perfected the art of defending their spiritual deficiencies and errors with the use of carefully manipulated and intelligent sounding words and phrases. They put on an air of authority so they may command the respect of the congregation, they shout and rant with an assumed confidence so that the flock may feel within them “Yes we have a shepherd, yes we have a leader”. Our pastors in their majority are candidates for the fires of hell. I am not at all suprised by the word from the mouth of baba Obadare in fact it is expected.This is a wake up call, we all should examine our lives for those subtle sins that puff up self and work towards the kingdom of God and strive to accumulate our treasures there and not upon this earth. Jesus be praised.

  22. Sin is sin no matter who is committing it.
    Be it the pope or the Rev Kumuyi or Tunde bakare or Papa Adeboye…Name them.The soul that sinneth it shall die…
    If Pastor Bimbo sinned she would die.Shikena

  23. The bible is clear about this issue,’But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.’Galatian 1:8(NIV).
    let’s examine this ‘gospel’ the bible talks about.
    How does one qualify for heaven or hell?
    Rom.10:9-10 (NIV)
    ‘That if you confess with your mouth,”Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved’.
    Apostle Paul asked the galatian christian in Galatians 3:2,’Did you receive the spirit by observing the law? and in verse 10 of same chapter said ‘all who rely on observing the law are under a curse’.
    Ephesians 1:13-14
    And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were MARKED in Him with a SEAL, the promised Holy Spirit- who is the guarranteing of our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of His glory.
    Ephesians 4:30
    And do not grieve the holy Spirit of God, with whom you were SEALED for the DAY OF REDEMPTION.
    Now I can go on and on, but the bottomline is this you get born again by accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour and not by works. you don’t clean up first and come to God. No, you come to God to clean you up. Then according to the scriptures above, everyone born again has been sealed ( like a roman emperor would seal a letter that must not be opened except by the recipient it’s meant for) for the day of redemption.
    My aim in life is not to make heaven,-as a born again child of God my going to heaven is guaranteed- but to live out my purpose, God’s purpose for my life. And as a believer, my judgement in heaven is not about condemnation but reward based on how I live out that purpose.
    ‘the soul that sins shall die’ does not refer to missing the mark but a state of being. that’s why God said ‘in that day (talking about this dispensation) I will give you a new heart…’
    So we see that the scripture is very clear about believers and hell. Hebrew 6:4-6 highlighted the conditions that must be fulfilled before a believer could got to hell. Tell me how many believers all over the world have fulfilled the condition hundred percent. probably one percent.
    If Pastor Bimbo goes to hell because of mini skirt as claimed (never remember seeing her in mini skirt) then Jesus promise to the thief by his side on the cross was not valid.I’m not saying wearing mini skirt in public is right, but there are more sins committed in thoughts than the ones that’re open to everyone.
    If anyone (no matter where he claims to have recieved the revelation) preaches another gospel different from what the bible teaches then let him be eternally condemned

  24. Dear Beloved folks out there,

    having gone through different comments and opinions on this issue, I will like to say these:

    I believe Prophet Obadare to be one of the great man of God in this country (Nigeria), whom I believe could not be messing up with the issue on life and death at this late hour of his life.

    If this spiritual experience (call it vision, trance, prophecy, coma, death, or what have u) truly emanated from him, then watch out for this thing:

    IF BABA EVENTUALLY DISBAND WOSEM, IN ORDER TO FULFIL THE ONE AND ONLY REQUIREMENT FOR HIM NOT TO GO TO HELL AS THE PART OF THE STORY THAT SAYS
    “…. (i should)get back to earth and ensure that I disband my church(WOSEM) and send messages to all leaders of the splinter congregations to re-align themselves with the original congregation founded by Babalola….to demonstrate the gravity of the instructions given to me and to emphasize what would happen to me if I disobeyed I was led to Hell’s Gate”

    THEN I WILL ADVISE ANYBODY NOT TO JOKE OR HANDLE WITH LEVITY THE REST OF THE STORY.

    Remember in Luke 16:19-31, the rich man said to Father Abraham,

    30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

    31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, NEITHER WILL THEY BE PERSUADED, THOUGH ONE ROSE FROM THE DEAD”

    GOD’S WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS, GOD’S THOUGHTS ARE NOT OUR THOUGHTS, LIKEWISE HIS JUDGEMENTS ARE NOT OUR JUDGEMENT.
    HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS EVERYONE INSIDE OUT.

    God bless u.

  25. We are easily carried away by the fate of others. Whether true or false, there is a lesson we must all learn. God is the JUDGE, He is a righteous judge who will give to every man according to his deeds.
    Let us examine ourselves and see if we are still in the faith. The end is certain. Let’s correct all our wrong deeds and turn to God alone. The time has come that every believer must have his lamp burning with extra oil for the day of need. Let’s all learn to listen to the voice of God as He speaks to correct and instruct us in the way He wants us to go.
    He who is often rebuked and hardens his heart will perish suddenly and that without remedy.
    My dear friends, look inwards and correct all wrongs so that you can be accounted to stand blameless b4 the great Judge.
    Our opinion is useless before His judgment seat. The question we must strive to answer is that are our names in the book of life?
    God help us all to pls Him.

  26. In addition to my above post i would like to, after reading a few of the posts above that it is clearly stated in the scriptures that the yardstick that will be used in the judgement of christians who have assumed a leadership role in the vineyard of the lord is different and stiffer than that which will be used for those who can be considered as the flock. Apostle Paul while making it clear that though everything is permissible not everything is beneficial. Also, he who through the exercise of his faith causes his brother to stumble is guilty of sin. The issue here before us is not about mini skirts per face value or other aspects of the lives of men and women of God, but rather the sensitivity these men and women have shown concerning the spiritual welfare of those entrusted to them vis a vis the freedom exercised in their own private lives. There are a lot of people, young and old whose very lives are shaped for good or no simply by those “trivial” things in the lives of leaders in the vineyard of the Lord and these leaders will surely give account.Jesus be praised.

  27. I understood your analysis very well. However, i quite disagree with some of the things that you wrote. I believed both Baba and Pastor Bimbo are both servant of God, but if the said vision received by Baba is true indeed then it is pathetic. In your analysis you appear to be a little bit emotional and because you are an admirer of the late pastor Bimbo i can understand. In response to your biblical analysis, i want to correct you on a point which you said that it is not biblical if it is true that Pastor Bimbo sent Baba to the congregation. Go and study your Bible very well read from the book of Luk 16:27-31,Richman requested Lazarus be sent to his Father’s house to preach to them.Well, the only thing i have against this whole story being circulated on the web is i would not believe until i hear Baba Obadare on tape or read from his Church. I want to pay our attention to a time in the past when it was going around on the web and text both in Nigeria and abroad that Pastor Adeboye asked us to pray for our loved ones againt disaster, but eventually i learn that Pastor Adeboye responded to it that it wasnot him. So we should beware of this kind of news.We all wish that Pastor Bimbo Odukoya is not in hell but of course there is no prayer for the dead, let God reward her accordingly, he knows the heart and deeds and he does not judge according to men standard. This is a wakeup call for all of us we should repent of any appearance of evil, even some of the things that we do and we believe are irrelevant could land us in hell. God bless you all

  28. Well-done Bukky ,i really appreciate God in your life and i pray that the grace of God will never expire in your life.Above all,i strongly believe the church is facing end time battle and i know the gate of hell shall not prevail.I know this information is not from Baba and if it’s from baba,we will like to hear from Him directly.God is not an author of confusion and he knows BEST.I respect anointing alot and i will never stand to judge any servant of God.Baba and Pastor Bimbo has really affected me in positive ways and i respect the grace of God in their life’s.DON’T STAND TO JUDGE ANOINTING

  29. Its unfortunate that a message that should warn the careless souls to prepare to meet God has become a subject of discussion in the court of human opinion and analysis. In as much as I don’t hold brief for any one; my position is that Baba Obadare said he saw a vision, there is no one to dispprove that except someone to tell us that God told him that the revelation is not true. So let us examine our lives in the light of eternity for God is no respecter of persons, no matter what you’ve done for God if you live sort of His required standard YOU MAY GO TO HELL. Remember Paul, with all his exploits in the kingdom, he said “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway” (1 Corinthians 9:27). The fundamental issues here are: Are you born again? Are you living in holiness? Do you heed this divine Scriptural injunction – “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
    17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever” (1 John 2:15-17). So let’s stop castigating at Baba Obadare and leave Bimbo alone. Every one of us will be judged according to God’s unchanging standard regardless of what man may think or say of us. MEET YOU UP THERE IN THE CITY OF GOLD IF YOU CARE TO BE THERE BY “FOLLOW PEACE WITH ALL MEN, AND HOLINESS, WITHOUT WHICH NO MAN SHALL SEE THE LORD” (Hebrews 12:14).

  30. WELL, SEEING IS BELIEVING,HE WHO HAVE EARS LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING. I KNOW HEAVEN IS REAL AND HELL ALSO,THIS IS NOT STRANGE TO ME.HAD I KNOWN IS NOT THE SAME AS HAD I WISH I HAD LISTENED.LEARN T HEAVEN IS FULL OF SURPRISES.

  31. I like the attitude of Diddy as stated in the post. I see it as the attitude of every wise person.
    For those who think that once saved, eternally saved they should remember Judas, Demas etc and find out whether they fulfilled all the things stated in Hebrews 6:4-6 before they became damned.
    God is no respecter of persons!

  32. Interesting and informative. But will you write about this one more?

  33. Well,in a situation like this there is no need of becoming maliciously emotional on this matter.Either the husband of our late mummy in the Lord react or not.We that are alive need to prepare for our heaven so that we will not be paradoxically committing sin while reacting to people’s matter.Look,there many ways of killing snail.
    We have an authentic and pragmatic reference book(BIBLE) which we can consult for this case more importantly our ever ready consultant(HOLY SPIRIT)is there for us.Knowing fully that we shall give account of every word that proceed out of our mouth.Read,Deut.29:29,Matt.10:26

  34. Wether the story is true or not, it has help me to do a double check on my life style. The Bible urges us to check ourseves to see if we are still in the faith. It does not matter how much you preach or how much people idolize you for your annointing. The apostle Paul himself who wrote nearly half of the new testament alone had this to say,” I keep under my body and bring it into subjection, least after i have preach to others that I myself become a cast away” ICorinthians 9:27. Jesus warn, that not all who said to him lord lord shall enter the kingdom of God.Mathew7:21-23.He also advised in Luke 13: 24. “strive to enter”. I will rather get to heaven and am told it was not necessary for me to go the extra mile to be holy than be told “what you took for granted and never give heed to disqualified you”. God is loving but also a consumming fire. He brought the children of Israel out of Egypt and turn around and roast the unfaithful and disobidient in the wilderness. Dont forget the bible says what happend to them is supposed to be for an example to us so we dont fall into the same error.If this story is actually true do you know we have confirmed what Abraham told the rich man in hell?,”Even if some one were to rise from the dead and go to warn then, they would still not believe”

  35. DIDDY AND DARAX -Just point out the blank truth to us hope we will change our attitude and get serious with our own lives instead of arguing about what is not in our power to control. God does not need our opinions to do what he will do.

  36. The main issue here is not whether Baba Obadare died, sawPastor Bimbo or not (i can’t make up my mind if its true or not, but i won’t judje or condemn any), but it should be about we still living, and how we are living our lives. Lets say for the sake of argument, that the story is not true, but do we have to wait for the true story to come before we reacesss ourselves and make things right, NO. Like many of you all have said “God is no respecter of anybody”. Now for another argument that this story is true, well i will believe this is God’s way of letting us know that is coming is near, and we should put our act together. There are many men and women of God out there preaching the word of God, and we still find it hard to believe and repent, and if God decides to give babe another chance so he can come back to warn hois people, then who are we to question his action or condemn whoever he decides to use. If this story is true, then lets he who have ear hear, Go and change your ways including myself. And if this story is not true, but a made up story by some journalist who is trying to make money, then May God forgive you all. But regardless, as christians, we shouldnt wait for stories like this before we know waht we have to do to make it to heaven. Its all in the bible, read and you will understands Gods way. Amen!

  37. I think everyone should just make sure that they are straight with God in all their ways. Whether it maybe their hairdos, lifestyle or dressing. I don’t think we as christians have anything to lose by believing it. It just makes us reflect back on our lives and make sure we stand straight with God. God Bless you all…

  38. I WONDER WHY THIS PATTERN CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. TELL ME WHAT WOULD THIS PROPHET GAIN FROM FABRICATING SUCH A STORY AGAINST BIMBO. THIS STORY IS ONE OF THE MANY CAUTIONS WE HAVE HEARD AS MEN OF GOD. IMAGINE SOMEONE SAYING THIS PROPHET WHO HAS NOW RETURNED TO RE-ALIGN HIS LIFE IS GOING OUT OF SCRIPTURE. GOD FORGIVE YOU. PLEASE CORRECT YOUR SELF O.

  39. Even Thomas who lived with Jesus doubted His resurection, so why will i be suprised about the so many doubtful comments here and above, it will take so many souls to end up in Hell to find out that God has a standard and if you fall short of this standard you’ll have yourself to blame.
    I have heard so much about Bimbo Odukoya, i enjoy her ministry of building happy marriages/homes and i have heard about baba Obadare too, the question is what was Gods opinion about the ministry of these people, from the vision there was nothing suggesting that she preached a wrong message but something vital has been mentioned, something that is fast declining in christiandom…..the outward appearance, so called christians are quick to say “your outward appearance does not matter, God looks inward” forgeting that all that is exhibited in the outward is from within.
    I think God is sending out a warning on this declining generation, we all have a choice to either take it or leave it, who know if God had spoken in like manner to Bimbo about this before she passed out, am not taking side but i strongly believe we should all just take time and consider our ways, search the scriptures, pray and find out the mind of God on this issue and set things straight, don’t forget the old man also spoke about breaking the church , lets look around is that not the case all over the place,,,,,hmmmm please dont leave it out to find out too late,if you are interested about heaven, THINK.

  40. The truth word of God is fading away from people’s hearth, even the Christians who preach sound doctrine fails to establish God’s requirement they are looking at length of the blouse, skirt and hair style. Therefore let your light so shine among men, that they will see the good work, which will transform life of people. Bimbo’s issue is a lesson to ever Christendom.

  41. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. Titles are only relevant amongst men, therefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he falls.

    The foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, God knoweth them that are His.
    Wearing of lip stick, slacks, jerry coils, spagettini, trousers by women are anti christian behaviours. Any one who dreams of getting to the Kingdom of God and Angels MUST desist from all such.
    Men in homosexual acts, cannibalism, smoking, fraud and forgeries, lying, stealing, fighting, pride, malice, occultism, all noted and written or unwritten sins just to name a few have equal level of penalty. God searchest the reins of men. May the fear of God becloud our hearts at all times.

  42. sometimes we have an unteachable spirit, the one who is telling us knows more than us and knows what he saw, yet we still argue.
    the bible says u have made the word of God of no effect because of your tradition.be it true or not, we should really have a sober time with ourself and communicate with the spirit of God.
    the bible said on the last days i will pour out my spirit to all flesh, the old men shall dream dreams and the young men shall see visions.
    all i know for sure is this, it is not her dressing,mini skirts, or way of life that took her to hell, there is something that she has done, that might have taken her to hell.
    because when someone is not born again, he is already condemned for who he is, why? cause his father is the devil
    haven’t you heard about a certain good man in the bible, that is faithful and just in the site of the lord.
    but because he is not born again, God
    told peter to go and visit the man in his house and get him born again.
    that is the fact of the whole matter
    the time is near,
    the bible says work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
    as i’m writting to you now, i’m beginning to examine my slef
    cause the clock is no longer ticking
    is that all?
    look at the global economic melt down, who do you think is going to solve the situation?
    is not the christian cause by then the christian would have been raptured to heaven,
    it is the anti- christ that will come and resolve the matter
    beacuse it is their time and hour of darkness
    then if you don’t have the mark of the beast,
    you cannot do anything
    if you think i’m lying, just log on to http://www.google.com
    and search for 666
    you will see the outcome of it
    after all they said obama is going to church of satan
    those who have ear let him hear.
    god bless you

  43. WoW! Thank you very much for that enlightening article

  44. Hi,
    I was sad when i read this article because the so called BANKER AND HUMAN RESOURCE CONSULTANT did not know the gravity of sin they have committed with this too know altitude. Baba said he was not allowed to enter his mansion due to the role he played in CHRIST APOSTOLIC CHURCH break up. Who are you now to challenge him if truely what he said is correct or wrong. If God did not recongnised BABA OBADARE his calling, he could have died and go to hell but because of God his love for this man and the magnitude of work God has used him for in this world that was the reason, GOD apllied HIS GRACE on him.
    Want did BABA want to gain by saying BIMBO ODUKOYA was in hell?
    Have you forgotten want the Bible said that your dressing must be moderate and must not make others to stumble or sin?
    That was how AMERICAN was lead away from GOD, when people believe in constitution than word of GOD. I pray that Nigerian we not turn to AMERICAN in the next thirty years.
    Moreso,the word of God says – what shall he profit a man who gain the whole world and loose his soul?……… You need to rewrite this article as lead by God Spirit so that people who have made up their mind to change the way they dress will not continue by reading your too know analysis. You must fast for three days for God to forgive you and have mercy on you because you are not in position to say what Baba Obadare saw was not correct. This is a Spiritual thing which need Spiritual understanding.
    Lasly, have you forgotten what the bible said – IN YOUR NAME WE CAST OUT DEMON AND WE RAISE DEATH AND JESUS WE SAY I KNOW YOU NOT, YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITIES.

    Yours Enoch
    USA

  45. Please be aware that this story did not come from the prophet. I have confirmed this.. The news has been fabricated by some enemies of both parties involved. If you are a true believer then you be able to tell what is true and not.. This story is FALSE…

  46. I can either use my Bible to contradict or support Obadare. I think it’s hi-time we took a look at the Holy Qur’an for perfect guidance on matters.

  47. I have read a lot about people’s responses to the vision by Prophet Obadare. Some of the responses are quite shocking! Some of the views of people still confirm the scripture that says “And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead”. This is not the first time believers are caught into heaven whether in trance or vision. A comprehensive story can be downloaded from http://www.divinerevelations.info/documents/7_jovenes/English_7_Jovenes_Hell.htm

    My candid advice is that we should not border with where Pastor Bimbo is (heaven or hell). We should focus on our lives. It is wrong to start defending the dead just as many of us is doing. Let the dead defend themselves. “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God ” Rom 14:12. The major message in the revelation by Prophet Obadare is that it takes holiness to make heaven. This cannot be attainined without fully surrendering to Christ. Mt 7:23 says “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity”. We all should be careful in our private lives, because the true you is discovered when you are left alone. May God count us worthy.

    If Prophet Obadare with all the exploits he had done for Christ found it difficult to enter heaven at first attempt, we all need to take our relationships with Christ very seriously. We should be able to pray that “Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes” Song 2 :15. Those foxes are going to kill us eternally if do not deal with them now.

  48. GOD CAN NEVER CHANGE HIS STANDARD ‘COS OF ANYBODY.
    SO I BELIEVE THE FACT THAT PASTOR BIMBO ODUKOYA GO TO HELL.
    AND “GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED WHATEVER A MAN SOWS, HE SHALL REAP” (GALATIANS 6 VS 7)
    EVERYONE OF US SHOULD EXAMINE HIS/HER SELF DAILY WHETHER IS IN THE LORD.
    ‘COS WE ARE CALLED FOR SALVATION NOT CELEBRATION’
    AND JESUS WILL COME LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT.
    SHALLOM.

  49. Baba Obadare is well and alive, he at no time died nor did he speak to anyone about a vision of heaven or hell. I do not know the source of the story, but one thing I know for sure is that everyone shall be judge for every idle word that one speaks. The source of the story lied and every liar will have his/her part in the lake of fire unless the individual repents.

    God Bless

  50. i appreciate everyboy’s comment. The origin of the story might be false, but it is also a wake up call to remind us that God is no respecter of person’s, it is a fact thqt we’ll be surprised at those who we\ll make heaven and those who’ll go to hell. for sure heaven and hell is real. Let’s work out our salvation with fear and trembling, withtotal obedience to God. May God help us through is sufficient grace.

  51. food for thought : if i die today where goeth my soul?????

  52. I am seeing this vision by Prophet Obadare for the first time. The first question is ‘did he see what he said he saw’? Could he be telling lies? What gain will he be looking for by telling lies?
    Most likely he narrated just what he saw especially since he himself would have been in hell by now if he have not come back.
    The first lesson is that God is not a respecter of person.
    Secondly no man will make heaven by whatever good deeds he/she may do either ‘for’ God or humanity. By grace are you saved and not of works lest any man should boast.
    The revelation of the new testament is that the works of our hands could make us to lose the priviledge of getting to heaven at last. Remember the parable of the ten virgins told by Jesus Christ. Also remember Jesus said many will say to me in the last day Lord we did this and that in your name, but I will say I never knew you!
    Many pastors and Reverends may look righteous and Godly to men but God is the one that have the perfect knowledge of everyman’s heart and life.
    If truly Bimbo Odukoya went to hell (or miss heaven) because of her outward appearance, then it is important that believers look carefully into their hearts before they dress as they like. A believer should refused to accept any opinion from any ‘man of God’ that teaches them that how they dress is irrelevant especially if their conscience is saying otherwise.
    What role do jewelries, make up and those adornment play in our relationship with God. These things don’t make the users more acceptable to God but rather they have the tendencies to draw people’s heart towards wordliness and thereby loving this world contrary to God’s word.
    To those who are having reason(s) to dispute the vision of Prophet Obadare, they should continue in whichever way they are living-they will confirm whether they are true or not when they too draw their last breath.
    They should reserve their questions to when they too will face the Almighty God and if possible appeal against His judgement to the Supreme court in America or CAN, PFN etc????.
    Abraham told the rich man ‘if they do not believe Moses and the prophets, they will not believe even if anyone will come from the dead’

  53. Glory be to the Lord, he is the only one that knows the end from the begining, as a believer I am not worried about this revelations because I know there will definately be surprises when we get to heaven, The question is how are we working with the Lord, is it with fear and faith, we shall all go one day either to hell or heaven, I pray the distractions of the world today will not let us miss our eternity in Jesus name.

  54. will all must have it in mind that heaven is real…….so let us be prayer and live a holy and a honest life ….according to the rev of assenblies of god church aduwawa 1 branch ….he said if you are a child of god then prove it ……….so let us live a holy and sinfree live ….good bless you all in jesus name

  55. well let me thank you for bringing this story. i have been longing to read it. but I hate reading those cheap “christian mags” they sell in camps as i don’t consider their info very ok.
    yes Heb 9:27 man dies once. but who confirms death? doctor or God? there have been stories of pple who died and came back to life. as for the position of the mansion, whatever the Lord wants you to see you will see.
    Bible standard for dressing is MODESTY. I cannot judge Bimbo, she touched many souls but that alone is not the conditions for making heaven. if you read through matt 7:21-23, the pple being referred to are ministers of God who touched pple. the standard of God will not change if you wilfully disobeys in one area you are likely to loose the whole. while I dont have the write to agree or disagree whether Bimbo is in hell I can say that i did not consider her dressing and make-ups as modest. But God is the final and only judge

  56. THIS IS DEFINITELY A LESSON TO ALL CHRISTIANS, WHETHER IT IS A TRUE STORY OR NOT. PLS LEARN THAT GOD IS NOT A RESPECTER OF PERSONS BUT JUDGE ACCORDING TO THE INTENTS OF OUR HEARTS. THERE ARE SO MANY COMTEMPORARY CHRISTIANS NOWADAYS INSTEAD OF APOSTOLIC CHRISTIANS. IF THE RELEASE IS TRUE, THEN LET ALL CHRISTIANS IN THE HABIT OF MINIS, HAIRDOS, LIFESTYLES ETC HEED AND TURN BACK TO GOD IN TRUE WORSHIP. REMEMBER THAT IN THE LAST DAYS PERILOUS TIMES SHALL COME 2TIM 3:1-13. IF IT IS FALSE, THEN WE CAN STILL TAKE LESSONS FROM IT AND LIVE THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT TO GOD. IN WHATEVER WAY, LET’S PREPARE FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

  57. Why do we occupy ourselves with these controversial debates. If there is the need and urgency to get answers, why can’t we just ask God in our private closets about : e.g where Pastor Bimbo really is, whether Baba actually saw this or that…etc? Would the Holy Spirit assist in giving answers? I hope so. Or, would He keep silent and wonder why we are this bothered about establishing who is correct or incorrect. Me thinks we should remember that the conviction in our hearts gives us peace, which if I remember well again, passes all understanding. I know what I can,and would belive and until otherwise, I hold on to it. What do you belive?

  58. The scripture is true when Abraham in heaven told the rich man that even if a dead man rose from heaven to go & warn his (rich man’s) family, they ll not believe since they didnt believe Moses & the Prophets. I believe d best thing 4 us 2 do is to sincerely place our lives on d mirror of God’s words as God wont lower His std 4 any man. By God’s grace we’ll all make d kingdom of heaven.

  59. Baba claimed he was taken to heaven’s gate, right? Read the scripture very well, when a righteous man dies he doesn’t go to heaven. He goes to PARADISE, a waiting room(Bibilical refernce unavailable at the moment but scriptural). Probably at a covenient time, Baba would have to tell the public the vision he saw in a better light. Speculators or whoever they are should try to avoid incurring the wrath of the Almighty through unhealthy comments they post on the internet. Remember that judgement is God’s. I recommend that you don’t touch it, File!!

  60. let us just live by the standard of God’s word and not by the illusion of what men say or see.No man is an authority as far as God is concerned.The only standard is his word.Let us beware because this is the perilous time

  61. my other side of view about this vision is that for the fact that a man is acceptable by the world does not mean that God endorses such a person.Jesus spoke to the angles of the churches in the book of revelation,after all he said to each of them,he said that he had something against each of them.Remember they are angles.Who then can be saved?I pray for saving grace and mercy

  62. This is unfortunate! The Bible said a house that is against itself can not stand, likewise does it said that we should be watchful at the end of time. I think this is the work of the antichrist – we should be watchful, depend on the Holy Spirit – wisdom is profitable to direct.

  63. Thanks to the Almighty God for this revelation. But to my own view,if truly we are planning for heaven,we have nothing to loose by adhering strictly to this vision & even if we hear anything that could disturb our heaven,either we believe it or not,we have to stop it cos we have nothing to loose but to gain…Heaven is real.

  64. well, it is a signal for all us to check our lives. I pray God to grant us the grace to obtain His cut off marks, because there is no appeal against His judgement.

  65. When i first hard about this, i was shocked and i find it very difficult to believed i thought maybe its just a frame of talk here and there.Its say in the Bible that hold on to the one you believe.When i got home i told my mum about this she was very worried and wiped.I pray to God to grant us all the heart to bear this vision.Heaven is real…

  66. True or not true, believe it or dont the issue in Prophet Obadare versus Bimbo Odukoya is another message for Christians say, from heaven if you like. Schists and those who fail to pursue peace in any organization they belong to are better warned, so also are professing christians who wear wordly dresses under whatever guise. Revelations 22 : 20 puts it siccinctly -* Surely i come very soon*

  67. Let us leave this arguement for now but i want to plead with everybody to really work on him/herself as the day of judgement will not be as we are looking at it. alot of people joke about this.THE VALUE OF YOUR SOUL SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

    Pls visit this website http://www.divinerevelationonholiness.org read the book on this site and you will be able to know alot of things and this will reaaly help.
    pls take care of your soul as this is very important.

  68. The very first day i heard about this issue i never doubted baba obadare. why bcos, for him to have died for good 4 days without any medical effort, indicates that he truly went somewhere? i then ask, what does this octagenarian stand to gain by lying? a prophet that has been working for God for many decades whose dreams and aspiration is to win souls for christ and primarily to make heaven. i beg let stop manipulating the bible over a settled matter.
    HE WHO HAS AN HEAR LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING!!!

  69. Be it as may, True or false the most important thing is that remember no one will want to lie about such thing knowing the consequences of telling lie, but I think for those of us still leaving its better to take correction and to be on the save side turn away from anything that can or have the possibility of going to hell .. if we miss heaven we will have nobody to blame not even Bimbo or Obadare because the bible say we shall all be responsible for our action. I know in heaven there shall be many surprises and if this is one of them its expected “God is not a respecter of Person” Psalm 9 vs 17. “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” If all nation can be turned to hell what of one person. If Moses can be denied of getting to the promise land with all his achievement and God’s testimony about him, so who are we. It is better for us to listen to the voice of reason if truly we heaven in our focus instead of debating the authenticity of the information. else we have ourself to blame at the end of life.

  70. whether it is true or not,everyone should be aware that the coming of Jesus is no respecter of persons, everyone will stand at the throne of God to face judgement.If he was qualified to get to heaven he wouldnt have talked about another person not getting to heaven…Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand!!!!!!!!Whether true or not !!!Work Out Your Salvation with fear and trembling !!!!

  71. Hmmmmmm. Now this is a very serious matter we have here,2 powerful servants of GOD? I really dnt want belive or judge any because the bible says touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm. And it also stated that”judge not so that ye may not be judged”

  72. I recomend a book by cho thomas “Heaven is so real.This book will change our view of who will make it to heaven or not. Mark 10:17-31 says it all.After Jesus told a man what it required to get to Heaven ,Peter asked ,who then can be saved?.Jesus replied, to man ,it is impossible ,but with God ,all things are possible.Only God can help us to get to heaven not our popularity , fame, tittle or position in the kingdom of God.Did you realise it took one anger of disobedience for Moses to fofeit the promise land he worked for for 40 years even though he prayed for God to have mercy on him?. After many years of faithful service to God who will have thought that Moses the meekest man on earth will miss the promise land?.Oh you say that is old testament ?The 7 letters to 7 churches in the book of Revelation is from Jesus telling 6 out of 7 churches He is disappointed with them.If Jesus were to write a letter to you or your church,you will be shocked what Jesus will have to say.Let us pray and watch and listen to the Holy Spirit cos if GOD tells you to drop something like he told the young man in the book of mark 10 to go and sell everything he had and you don’t obey probably because you think you have arrived or once saved you are forever saved a doctrine from Hell, you will be disappointed on the last day.May be God has been warning this wonderful woman of God which i know and loved to listen to about these things and how she needed to warn her listners but she refused perhaps because of fear of people that will leave her ministry, then the people became an idol to her and no idol worshipper will enter the kingdom of God.I am not saying she deserve to go to hell neither am i saying this is what happen but if this revelation is true and we know God is righteous and holy ,He who does not make mistake,is there not a cause?This is an admonition for you and me upon whom the end of the world has come.Repent and be converted , let us rededicate our lives to Jesus and make Him our LORD and SAVIOUR.Shalom

  73. This comment is in response to Matthew Olateru’s post

    The Bible says that we are saved (rescued) by His Grace & His Grace alone. But in order for us to be a recipient of that Grace of God we are informed by Jesus the following.

    Mark 1:15 – and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.”

    He also gave us warnings about people who will choose not to repent in His words in the following passages (As you read them, keep in mind that this is the LORD JESUS himself warning us)

    Luke 13:1-5 – There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

    Also

    Luke 13:24-27 – Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able. 25 When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’ and He will answer and say to you, ‘I do not know you, where you are from,’ 26 then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’ 27 But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’

    Other warnings were also issued to us professing christians in the word of God. Somer of which include but are not limited to the following:

    Hebrews 10:26-7 – For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

    And

    2 Peter 3:15-16 – and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

    So my brother, while we read & apply scriptures in our lives we should be careful not to misinterpret the word of God. We can not form our doctrine especially something as important as the doctrine of salvation (Heaven and Hell) based on some part of the scriptures while ignoring other parts.
    Just like Apostle Paul in his valedictory message to the elders of the church at Ephesus said the he did not avoid to declare the “WHOLE COUNSEL” of GOD to them. And what was this “whole counsel”? He stated it earlier in his message that it was Faith (absolute trust) in the Lord Jesus Christ & Repentance towards God (turning from sin to God). Read Acts 20:20-28.

    As for this “revelation” from Papa Obadare, I don’t know if it is true or false. I personally don’t know Pastor Bimbo or seen her likeness on TV or anywhere. So, I don’t know how she dressesor her lifestyle. I know that God knows her, her lifestyle and what was in her heart. As one preacher used to say “God’s flaming peircing eyes peirces through what man can not see.”
    As for me, whether true or false I take this as a warning that I need to always live my live in a way that pleases God. Basically I must repent of all the things in my life that He has commanded me to repent of now, not later.

    I hope everyone takes this “revelation” the same way.
    Please listen to this http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=12829

  74. When I heard this story, I was first troubled in my heart over thinking that Pastor Bimbo might be in torment and that many people I think saved might actually not be (including myself). This is because I thought the story had a 50% chance of being true. But now, I think the chance of it being true is less than 5%. Just like in 2Thessalonians 2:1-2, it is probably a false story. I gave it a slim chance of being true because the prophet hasn’t come out to publicly refute the story, like Apostle Paul did in quoted scripture.

    However, whenever Prophet Obadare’s health improves if he comes out and confirm the rumors, I will place the probability of it being true at 90%. This is because anyone could be in Hell. This includes even Apostle Paul who was a great giant of the Faith and a man with an enduring legacy. Just read Ezekiel 3:20-21 & 1 Corinthians 9:26-7.

    I think whoever published the story, without having appropriate confirmation, should be ashamed of himself because he didn’t consider the grief that such an accusation can cause the family of the woman. Such a person is either an over zealous so-called Christian or an agent of the Devil. The person who did this forgot that God warned us in Rev 21:8 that all liars will have their part in the lake of Fire & Brimstone. By saying ALL LIARS, God did not exclude the well meaning ones. Let me say, this person don’t need to be worried about Pastor Bimbo’s (God bless her soul & Family) destiny, but their own. However, God is full of mercy, If he will place his faith in Jesus, repent & make restitution, God will forgive him.

    The comment of the husband and what other people told me about the Pastor’s mode of dressing makes me want to believe that I believed and have passed on a lie. Therefore, I have to register my apologies to the family & especially to GOD her savior for this error. I did this contrary to my better judgement, because God commands us to not be tale bearers & I have also been thought never to pass on a “revelation” unless God reconfirms it to me. If I am wrong & the story is true, may God forgive me.

    One good thing about the story is that it has caused me to seek purity in my thoughts & the ability to easily forgive people. Imagine what God will do to a man who lusts & finds it hard to forgive, if he cast a woman into hell for her mode of dressing.

    Finally, whether this story is true or false (probably false) we should remember that the word of God admonishes us to live our lives as strangers & pilgrims, who are constantly awaiting JESUS our savior. So, we should seek the help of GOD to rid ourselves of all worldliness & sinfulness (Philippians 3:20-21, Titus 2:11-14, Hebrews 11:13-6, 2Peter 3:10-13).

    GOD bless and keep all of you

  75. The old man is hale and hearty, he never died nor saw Bimbo Odukoya.. please lets keep our minds focusedon the race that is set before us??

  76. The old man is hale and hearty, he never died nor saw Bimbo Odukoya.. please lets keep our minds focusedon the race that is set before us??

    http://odili.net/news/source/2009/dec/25/504.html
    http://odili.net/news/source/2008/apr/27/606.html

  77. Bimbo Odukoya: WOSEM drags editors to media regulatory agency
    By THERESA ONWUGHALU
    Friday, January 08, 2010
    Late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya
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    Sequel to some recent publications that Prophet Timothy Obadare died, resurrected and saw the late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya in hell, the publicity committee of The World Soul Evangelistic Ministry (WOSEM) has dragged the publishers of News Of The People and Global Excellence to the Nigerian Press Council.

    In a petition signed by the Chairman, Publicity Committee of the ministry, Pastor Jimmy Olufemi Alabi noted that several persons across the globe have been misled by these fabricated publications.

    His words, “several persons who believe in the calling of Prophet Obadare including pastors from C.A.C and other churches have been grossly misled by these cruel publications made by these persons to the effect that Prophet Obadare died, resurrected and that he saw late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya in hell. Also that he, Obadare himself was rejected by the Lord Jesus and asked to return for restitution.”

    According to Alabi, “Prophet Obadare would have wished to only commit the perpetrators of this evil to the hands of God, in line with the incidences recorded in Acts 9: 1-9 or 2 Kings 2: 23 – 24 as Jehovah may deem appropriate. However, for the strong character assassination import of the publications especially on Prophet Obadare, his church, C.A.C, his ministry WOSEM, the late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya, her family and the church of God, WOSEM has therefore requested the media regulatory agency to investigate the two publications, their editors, and others to unravel the motives or intentions of the promoters of these false stories.
    Apart from demading for refutal and apologies in major news organizations, Alabi said, WOSEM also wants the Nigerian Press Council to impose stringent sanctions that would help secure the image of reputable Nigerians from the hands of charlatans and crooks in journalism practice.

    “If those editors cannot prove that the stories and their insinuations are true, they should make public apology and cause same to be published in their papers, five major National daily newspapers and major electronic Media including Radio Nigeria Network, Radio Oyo, OSRC and NTA News Line, LTV, Channels, OSBC, STV and AIT,” the cleric said. Also, “as a deterrent, they should be made to make a refund of all monies spent on image repair by parties injured since the damaging stories broke.

    Having seriously destroyed the age-long reputation, ministry and labour of Prophet Obadare, they should be made to refund all monies spent on 35 years of ministration on radio stations, TV stations– LTV8, NTA, OSRC, Stadia (National Stadium, TBS, Liberty Stadium, Teslim Balogun Stadium, Agege Stadium, Evans Square, Ajele Square, etc) nationwide and other logistics estimated at an average annual budget of N10 million totaling N350 million,” Alabi stated.

  78. Prophet Obadare opens up on late Pastor Bimbo Odukoya

    * By Dada Aladelokun
    * Published 9/01/2010
    * News
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    Late Bimbo Odukoya

    Founder of the World Soul-Winning Evangelistic Ministries (WOSEM), Prophet T.O Obadare, has described as a total lie, his rumoured death for three days and his alleged comment on the late Pastor Mrs. Bimbo Odukoya of The Fountain of Life Church, which is based in Lagos.

    The 81-year-old man of God, who spoke through Ladi Thompson, Senior Pastor, Living Waters Unlimited, who met him in the United States of America, also invoked the wrath of God on those behind the “satanic” rumour.

    For days now, the entire Christendom has been rudely rattled with the rumour contained in a junk publication, alleging that Prophet Obadare, who could not make heaven as alleged, woke from the dead after three days during which he reportedly saw Pastor Bimbo in hell because she was wearing mini skirts while on earth.

    “Worried at the rate at which the shocking rumour was spreading and its deleterious impact on the body of Christ, I travelled to Baltimore, USA, to see Prophet Obadare for his comments on the matter. I met him sitting down, wearing a simple and trousers. He also had his traditional dark glasses on. Quite interestingly, he said he did not think that such nonsense should be dignified with an answer; therefore, he provoked the wrath of God on those behind the unfounded satanic lies,” said Pastor Thompson who handed over to The Nation, a copy of the CD containing his encounter with the man, his wife and son, Pasto Paul Obadare. The CD is entitled, Signs of the Times.

    Prophet Obadare, according to Pastor Thompson, vehemently denied ever knowing both Pastor Bimbo and her husband, Pastor Taiwo Odukoya from Adam, let alone speak such nonsense about him, adding that the Prophet was full of sympathy and prayers for Pastor Taiwo Odukoya.

    Mrs. Obadare, who spoke at length on the matter said: “The rumour of my husband’s death shocked every one of us, including Baba (Prophet Obadare). As you can see, he never died. It is mere fabrication. My husband and I never met or knew both Pastor and Mrs. Odukoya. Pastor Odukoya should have known that my husband could not have said that rubbish about his wife because his concern has always been the kingdom of God. Those behind all these want to spoil Christianity and the entire body of Christ; they must not be allowed to have their way.”

    The woman, who sought forgiveness and a change of heart for those behind the wicked rumour through fervent prayers, advised that rather than maligning others, people must work towards seeking the kingdom of God.”

    Pastor Paul Obadare, who is the General Overseer of WOSEM and who also expressed his shock over the matter, said that the family did not take it seriously initially because he knew that his father would never attack his fellow minister of God.

    “It is a pure lie which has no basis. And to a large extent, I see it as a distraction which was intended to do an incalculable harm to the body of Christ. My father never died; he has been enjoying his privacy here because we felt that having worked for so long a time, he deserved a good rest. That is why we are very protective of his privacy,” he explained.

    On why he took it upon himself to visit the prophet in the US, Pastor Thompson explained: “I am a member of the Christendom that was being negatively affected by the situation which I felt, was fast getting out of hand. At the point when I decided to travel to meet Prophet Obadare, it had come to a stage where any man of conscience, especially in the Christian family must be involved in the urgent process of laying the matter to a rest.

    “Settling down over there, I first spoke with Pastor Paul Obadare, who expressed his worry over the whole issue about the rumour, which he described as very shocking, embarrassing and utterly irresponsible. He did all he could to convince me that his father never died at any point in time, adding that the rumour of his father’s comment of the late Pastor Bimbo was an unfounded falsehood.”

    However, Pastor Thompson was not satisfied. He spoke with the old Prophet’s equally perturbed wife who also seethed with worries and disappointment over the whole saga to the extent of lamenting what has become of the Christendom.

    Hear Pastor Thompson further on his encounter with the veteran preacher: “I insisted on seeing Prophet Obadare and having him utters even a word on the matter. Eventually, my prayer got answered and I met the man who, for some time now, had been kept in privacy to allow him rest after decades of landmark evangelism. We exchanged pleasantries and before I knew it, he had dozed off where he was sitting quietly.

    “Again, he shifted his head and greeted me again. Then I seized the opportunity to ask for his comment over the controversy. Apparently, to him, it was nothing worth commenting about as according to him, he never died, never met or knew the Odukoyas all his life, let alone making such a ‘nonsensical’ comment on the late woman. He dug into the Scripture and provoked the wrath of God on the very source of the development. Afterwards, I sought his prayers and he readily obliged me to close the encounter.”

  79. Every contributor has done great justice to the article in their contribution. The most important thing is that every one should search him/herself and make sure he/she lives in total obedience to the word of God since, like some of you rightly contributed, God is no respecter of any one and no one is to small, unpopular or unloved to go to heaven as long as the person truly surrenders his/her life to Jesus by faith and lives in obedience to God’s word, no matter how despised by men. Equally, no one is too big or famous/popular or too loved and esteemed to go to Hell if the person decides to, reject the person of Christ Jesus, claimed to have accepted Jesus Christ but took the word of God with laxity and disobedience.

    No one is rejected by God, if saved by Grace and lives a holy no matter how unlearned and unpresentable in the side of men or how unpopular his messages of Christianity. No one’s position and level of acceptance by men is too big to be in hell even if people see him/her as the best.

    Whether this story is true is not material but that we should libe in total obedience by grace.

    What I see however, is that, even if the story were true, what benefit would it have been to read and know that such and such a person is in hell. Does that breed edification or division. I think it rather breeds division and does not help those outside the folk to understand Christianity. While I have the personal oppinion that the story is not true (God forgive me if I am wrong), I think it calls for sober reflection. Any one can go to Hell, Any one can go to Heaven. It is a matter of choice of who to obey.

  80. can a man put fire in his bosom and not be burn.what baba Obadare said he saw
    either it true or not .He that have ears to hear let him hear what the sprit says unto the church.All the message is ammend your ways.

  81. can baba be telling lies knowing fully well that all liers wiil found themselves in the lake of fire. all what was shown was to correct and ammend our ways.this message is for the churches.he that have ears let him hear what the sprit says unto the churches

  82. Thanks 4 Scrutiny. i was Sincerely shocked, coz she was the Female preacher, I Admired most. If the Vision / Trance / Visit 2 Heaven and Hell is True, I’m Really Scared… my Fear is, Who Can Make it to Heaven….. SLIM Wil.

  83. Again, why will Baba want to choose such a lie 4 publication? May God Almighty, who’s knowledge Surpasses all, have his way and Grant us Wisdom 2 that is sufficient 2 handle such a Situation. Let us b mindful of our comments, coz they might cause us to sin coz Mathew 7:1 warns us about judging others…. SLIM Wil.

  84. I think we should allow the man of God himself to speak on this matter.

  85. kindly read the response of baba on the same blog ‘Prophet Obadare comment on the vision’ thank you

  86. If Baba has not said any thing of such as confirmed,then those news agent or papers should be forced under the law to make a correct.Our society should be made rumour free,it is until then we can reasonable progress.Every information should be confirmed before being published and if there is any error in such information,a correction should be a must under the law. We suffer alot in our community because of all this kind of informations.It is a total abuse of the media and it’s the evil worm destroying Nigeria politics.

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  88. This is a very sensitive issue.Let everyone be careful in what he/she says.If Pst.Bimbo is in hell or heaven, it’s irrivocable.God did not commission anyone to judge any of His servants.My advice at this point is that everyone of us should run the race set before us with all deligence. At the end of it all we shall no the true story when the roll is called up younder

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